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13:51:01
[george] Hi fellas
13:52:07
[george] Are you guys
interested in Brown's Gas?
13:52:52
[wmbusch] Very much
13:53:04
[john] yes what is the latest
news?
13:53:16
[george] Do you have
questions?
13:54:06
[wmbusch] What is the latest
news?
13:55:40
[george] listener is here with
me and will answer regular questions.
I'll answer technical
questions
13:56:01
[listener] Latest news on
Eagle-Research Brown's Gas!!! We're
releasing the new ER1200 at the end of
April 2002!!! Retail: $3,500
US
13:57:25
[george] What technical
questions can I answer?
13:58:58
[listener] ER1200 Design is
new; lighter weight; just as efficient
and at a price that melts the
competition.
13:59:56
[george] I can talk randomly
about the Brown's Gas technology, but
would prefer to help your
understanding.
14:00:30
[george] Is everyone aware of
what Brown's Gas Is?
14:01:47
[george] Brown's Gas is THE
mixture of gasses that are generated in
an electrolyzer specifically designed
to keep all the gasses
together.
14:02:36
[john] Why is lye used instead
of battery acid for
electrolyzer
14:02:41
[george] The gas is generally a
mixture of Hydrogen, Oxygen and water
vapor.
14:03:48
[george] It seems possible that
a portion of the hydrogen and oxygen
could be mon-atomic
14:05:23
[george] It also seems possible
that a portion of the water vapor could
be 'electrically enhanced' to make a
gasious form of water that is not
steam. It will stay stable as a gas no
matter the temperature.
14:06:42
[Lefty] Who will be producing
the ER1200
14:06:51
[george] john, I have found
that lye is about 5% more efficient
than any other electrolyte I've tested
so far, including battery acid
(sulfuric acid).
14:08:28
[listener] Brown's Gas spinoff
technology= Hyzor technology > can
be used to replace up to 50% gasoline
with water in combustion
processess
14:08:34
[george] john, I have even
tried mixing electrolytes like lye and
sulfuric acid to make a 'neutral'
electrolyte. It worked somewhat but was
still not as efficient as straight
lye.
14:10:09
[listener] Eagle-Research is in
the final stages of negotiations with 2
manufacturers. Manufacturers will be
represented at the Eagle-Research
Leader of the Pack Brown's Gas
conference: April 12 & 13 2002;
Spokane, WA Stay in touch with
http://www.eagle-research.com for info
in the next couple of weeks
14:12:08
[george] Time for a vote: are
you interested in talking about
applications of Brown's Gas or how it
is made?
14:12:36
[john] applications
14:12:59
[Lefty] What is the potential
of repairing caste iron with
BG
14:13:07
[george] John, do you have any
specific applications in
mind?
14:13:57
[john] hardsurfacing
14:15:31
[george] Lefty, welding cast
iron is an excellent use of Brown's
Gas. I use a cast iron rod (local
welding supply) with NO flux and puddle
weld the crack or break. For some
reason, the resulting weld puts very
little stress in the iron and I've even
cooled my welds with WATER.
14:17:26
[Lefty] Caste iron repair seems
to be an industrial application that
doesn't seem to be addressed well by
any other process.
14:18:18
[george] John, There is a man
in Lacombe Alberta that built a Brown's
Gas machine after reading my Brown's
Gas Book 2. He has his own million
dollar machine shop and has found
several excellent uses for the BG
flame. One use was a special
hardsurfacing technique which has
brought him literally
14:20:31
[george] John, to continue:
truckloads of business. The problem was
drill threads on the drill pipes in the
oilfields. The threads need to flex
because the pipes are constantly
bending, yet be hard to prevent damage
from dirt and gravel. It helps that BG
prevents rust too.
14:21:45
[Lefty] Will the latest
improvements relative to the ER1200 be
published in manual form?
14:22:56
[george] Lefty, that is true.
The nice thing about BG is that it is
very precise and versatile. I think it
can compete with and other known
technique for welding cast
iron.
14:25:54
[Lefty] A major problem in the
after market auto industry is cracked
heads. Has anyone tried BG to repair
cracked heads for auto
engines.
14:26:33
[george] John, the net result
is that the Lacombe man has cornered
the market for heat treatment of pipe
threads because his treatment makes the
pipes last twice as long as any
previous technique.
14:27:01
[listener] Brown's Gas Book3
will contain latest electrolyzer
developments up to and including
ER1150. Manuals lag behind partly to
maintain our competitive edge. (The
competition is already reverse
engineering Eagle technology) and
because . . .
14:28:10
[listener] . . . (continue)
when we're focused on new innovations
we can't also be focused on writing and
publishing the next book.
14:29:24
[george] Lefty, I have repaired
cracked exhaust manifolds. I see no
reason that BG couldn't be used to
repair cracked heads. I don't
specifically know of anyone who has
done it. I can see problems, like the
cracks may be hard to get to or may be
in 'sensitive' spots.
14:30:36
[george] Lefty, to continue:
still, I think, once one has practiced,
that most head cracks could not only be
repaired, but strengthened.
14:32:04
[george] John, do you have a
particular hardsurfacing job in
mind?
14:33:19
[john] Like heavy equipment and
conveyer rollers
14:33:31
[george] Lefty, BG cuts cast
iron well too, which can help in weld
preparation
14:35:06
[Lefty] George, thanks for
scheduling this time. I'll watch your
site for future
developments.
14:36:49
[george] John, I see no problem
with that. The surfaces are large and
(mostly) flat. The Lacombe man was
working with small sharpedged surfaces.
The BG puts the heat so precisely that
it can roll (melt) an edge quickly. So
practice is needed.
14:38:41
[george] One of the most
interesting aspects of BG treatment of
iron, is that the iron tends not to
rust.
14:40:27
[george] Brown's Gas flame is
'cold'. It does not radiate much
heat
14:41:04
[george] Yet Brown's Gas can
melt through nearly any material on
earth
14:41:46
[john] Can BG used to cut
stainless?
14:42:11
[george] I think this is
because BG actually 'carries'
electricity and that electrical energy
is put directly into the
work.
14:42:34
[listener] NEW MANUAL: Release
Feb. 12/02 : Water Injection
14:43:15
[george] John, It can melt
through stainless, but the edges are
rough and black. There are lots of
better ways to cut stainless on the
market.
14:43:52
[george] BG can braze stainless
though, and that's tough to do with any
other flame.
14:45:03
[john] Would BG work for
cutting concrete roads?
14:45:09
[george] The BG flame is
'imploding' constantly, that's why it
is so long and thin. It makes a tunnel
in the air. It draws in smoke and burns
it.
14:47:31
[george] John, It melts
concrete very well, even wet concrete
without popping, spitting or exploding.
I have cut re-bar out of wet
concrete.
14:48:40
[horsewing] I heard that
Brown's Gas can neutralize radioactive
waste???
14:49:34
[george] John (continue) BG
also does not require any oxygen from
the air, so can burn to any depth. The
only problem is getting rid of the
molten rock.
14:51:23
[Tenaj] 1 hour is just about
up.
14:51:56
[Tenaj] NEXT CHAT: Sunday March
17 '02 > (Preparing to) Get more
MPG
14:52:44
[george] horsewing, yes, BG has
been extremely effective in
neutralizing radioactive waste. I think
it is because the electrical energy in
the gas actually stabilizes the
material on an atomic level, so it no
longer needs to emit energy to
stabilize itself.
14:54:00
[george] Thank you Tenaj, I
look forward to seeing everyone at the
next Chat. This Chat will be posted on
the eagle-research website.
14:55:28
[Tenaj] REMINDER NEWS:
Eagle-Research 'Leader of the Pack'
Brown's Gas Conference: April 13 &
14 2002 > Spokane, WA
&
14:56:22
[Robert] Is there a charge for
the BG Conference in
Spokane?
14:56:24
[george] I've been told that
more people have arrived.
14:57:07
[george] Do you have any
questions before I go
(again)
14:57:19
[Robert] Yeah, I was going to
be here earlier but a lot of things
delayed me
14:58:10
[Robert] Is there a definite
planned time for the next
chat?
14:58:51
[george] Robert, NEXT CHAT:
Sunday March 17 '02 > (Preparing to)
Get more MPG
14:59:52
[Robert] OK, I am also
interested in any new releases of
manuals you have planned
14:59:58
[george] Robert, it seems that
the actual time is an issue, which we
will address more clearly
15:01:30
[george] Robert, I am planning
to come out with 'Active Water
Injection' next. It will teach people
how to best add water to maximize
gains, particularly with the
HyZor.
15:03:20
[Robert] Sounds great! I have
been interested in H20 injection since
reading about it in the old Mother
Earth News in the 1970's
15:04:22
[Robert] The theory behind it
makes sense.
15:04:32
[george] We get people coming
to this Chat from all over the world,
so I think I'll give some example times
on different continents, posted on the
eagle-research Chat page
15:05:57
[george] Robert, There are a
lot of different ways to use water as a
fuel, a few of which I've listed in the
'Water as Fuel, Book 1'.
15:06:22
[Tenaj] Spokane BG conference
fees: $100US by Feb 21/02; $135 by
March 28/02; $175 at the
door
15:06:39
[george] Then I've taken
Brown's Gas as a 'water as fuel' and
written the HyZor Manual.
15:07:52
[george] Now I'm putting out
the book on actual water injection
because once you've installed the
HyZor, you can actually replace a
portion (up to 50%) of your fuel with
water.
15:08:08
[Robert] I was thinkning of
water injection more as a way to
increase octane rating and to remove
carbon buildup. But to actually use it
as fuel--GREAT!
15:09:25
[dave] would the conference be
good to attend, for someone who is not
very knowledgeable yet on your
processes
15:09:37
[george] Yes, in heavier fuels,
you can even replace more, like the
Japanise replacing 90% of a heavy crude
with water when using BG as a
catalyst
15:11:09
[george] This replacing fuel
with water technique works in both
internal and external combustion (like
furnaces)
15:11:30
[Robert] So BG acts as a
catalyst to promote complete combustion
of fuel and water?
15:12:04
[Tenaj] Dave: the BG conference
in Spokane, WA (April) is of particular
interest to BG enthusiasts who want to
make money
15:13:09
[george] Yes, it has been known
for decades that water enhances the
combustion of fuel. And that Hydrogen
alone enhances the combustion of
fuel.
15:14:10
[Robert] George, what sort of
costs could someone expect to build a
BG generator?
15:14:21
[dave] Do you think it would be
over a beginers head or or good place
to start learning?
15:14:30
[george] The great thing is
that BG enhances the combustion of fuel
better than any previous catalyst and,
because of it's unique form of water,
actually allows water to replace fuel
without losing HEAT or POWER
15:15:50
[john] What is the best
application for BG?
15:15:52
[george] Robert, lots of people
have now built them. I need to ask what
size you'd like to build?
15:17:36
[Robert] My first thought is to
use it for welding and preheating then
to build a unit suitable for use on a
vehicle engine
15:18:11
[george] John, there is no best
because there are a LOT of ways to use
this gas productively, saving industry
billions of dollars per year.
Personally, I'm targeting the steel
cutting market first, simply because it
is an application I'm famillier
with.
15:18:37
[Tenaj] Dave: Have you already
read through the Brown's Gas material
on the Eagle site &
http://www.watertorch.com and Brown's
Gas book 1 & 2???
15:19:43
[Robert] George, how does
cutting steel w/BG differ from using
oxy-acetylene torches?
15:20:30
[george] Robert, good thoughts,
however, I think of the torch as a
torch, not a welder. Arc welders can
generally weld better than flame. BG
flame outperforms any other
flame.
15:20:54
[Robert] I am familiar with
using a standard torch to cut where the
torch preheats the metal and then the
O2 jet burns the hole through the
metal
15:21:31
[dave] Tenaj: I have visited
your site twice and have read the
material that is online however I have
not read any of the books yet, 11 years
ago I visited a man in Iowa who was
supplementing the fuel in his truck
with hydrogen and that has kept my
interest .
15:21:56
[george] Robert, A home built
3000 liter can be $1,000 to $4000. A
HyZor can be $200 - $500.
15:23:00
[Robert] George, Is the HyZor
unit for vehicle engine use?
15:24:24
[john] What is the next project
after BG?
15:24:47
[george] Robert, a very long
answer is needed, mostly covered in one
of my last newsletters. For example the
BG cuts 25% faster, using 30% less
oxygen
15:26:08
[Tenaj] Dave: Hyzor technology
is the manual you need fi your interest
in Brown's Gas is to supplement
fuel
15:26:19
[Tenaj] Time's up
guys
15:26:45
[dave] Thank you!
15:27:02
[Robert] George, wow. That is a
significant improvement!
15:27:26
[george] Guys, I really
appreciate the interest and I look
forward to seeing you all next time.
I'll answer the questions I see on my
screen right now, then I'm taking my
lady out
15:27:43
[Robert] Thanks for your time.
I will have to catch up on the news
latters
15:27:52
[Tenaj] NEXT CHAT: Sunday March
17/02 EST > To ensure that more
people arrive here when we're here
we'll post the time according to
London, England time on the Eagle site:
http://www.eagle-research.com
15:28:49
[george] Yes Robert, the
Brown's Gas torch operates the same
way. In fact, we just replace the
acetylene with BG.
15:29:43
[Tenaj] Have a great rest of
Sunday everyone. Bye for now
15:29:54
[george] John, I'd love to
build fuel-less electric cars and
develope my Gravity power
systems.
15:30:24
[john] Thanks for your
time
15:30:44
[Robert] Thank yolu again for
your time, George. Enjoy your time with
your lady
15:30:48
[george] Robert, yes the HyZor
is BG specifically for vehicle
use.
15:31:07
[Tenaj] This chat will be
posted on the eagle site with the 1st
one:
http://www.eagle-research.com/chat/chat.html
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