Frequently Asked Questions - ER HyZor Operation

I recommend 25% lye to water by weight.  

I understand that may be a little confusing because people ask
"Is that 250 grams for 1 liter or 250 grams for 750 CC?"

Actually it isn't that critical and either will work.  I usually use the former and the latter is technically correct.

You don't want too much lye or it will actually inhibit the electrolysis process.  It's actually hard to have too little, as little as 5% will go a pretty good job.

Research shows that 25% is usually optimum but it takes considerably less before efficiency drops off significantly.

I like to start with the lye on the 'upper' end (densest mixture) when the electrolyte mixture in the HyZor is the lowest, because as you add water it will thin out the mixture.

Also, over time, there is a tiny loss of electrolyte out with the BG.  That's why you MUST run the BG through a filter on the way to the engine... because if lye gets into your engine, it will corrode (eat) your engine's aluminum components.

Usually foam isn't too much of an issue in a HyZor, so most people don't even need to worry about it.  For those people who worry about it anyway, here's some tips:
 
Several things cause foam so the best thing to 'do about it' is to prevent it in the first place.  
Before assembly wash (and rinse) all the parts, that will be inside the electrolyzer, with dish soap and hot water.  
The idea is to remove any residual oils, including skin oil from your hands.  
During assembly keep the parts clean by washing your hands well and often or wearing latex gloves.
 
Use lye (NaOH) with as few impurities as possible and distilled water to make the electrolyte.
Impurities are what foams.
 
Once the electrolyte is cooled, the very best way I've discovered to pre-condition it is to 'burn' off the foam.  
This technique involves putting the electrolyte mixture into a appropriate sized glass container with a large open top (like a measuring cup capable of measuring several cups of liquid).
Then putting a couple of stainless steel plates into the cup (make sure they won't touch), connected to a small Capacitive Power Supply, allowing a couple of amps of DC current, so that we start making BG in the cup.
As the BG comes out of the cup, I use a flame to 'pop' the bubbles.  
I prefer to use a BG flame (because it is pure and won't add carbon to the mixture) but I know most people don't yet have a WaterTorch so a soldering torch will work.
TAKE CARE to protect yourself from splattering electrolyte.  Do this in an open area, wear eye protection and protective clothing.
When the large bubbles stop forming, your electrolyte is pre-conditioned to NOT foam.
The large bubbles form because of oil on the surface, so burning off the oil prevents the problem.

Yes.
The problem of too much BG has three parts:

1. Your electrolyzer needs to be as efficient as possible, preferably 100% or better (yes, there are electrolyzers that are over 100% efficient).  100 % efficiency means producing BG using less than 2 watthours per STP Liter of BG; or greater than 8 MMW.
Efficiency is important because typically every watt, that the vehicle produces to make BG, took 11 watts of fuel.  Your engine power gains, from the BG catalytic effect, must be greater than 11 times or you either get NO gain or you LOSE mileage.

If your electrolyzer is less than 100% efficient, (a lot of them are as little as 28% efficient) then you'd need to burn 38 times more fuel (instead of 11) to make each watt of BG.  So the BG catalytic effect power gains from your engine would have to be 38 times more than the power in BG before you would see ANY fuel mileage gains.  So you need a very efficient electrolyzer, the more efficient the better.

2. You need to be able to efficiently control the volume of BG coming from your electrolyzer.  


First because, as I explained before, there is an optimum volume of BG to achieve the catalytic effect (this optimum varies with vehicles and driving conditions).  If you generate MORE BG than the optimum needed, then you are LOSING mileage because you are burning 11 times more fuel than the catalytic effect is returning to you.  


Second, there are many ways to control BG production, some more efficient than others.  Again, efficiency counts as per above, you MUST be efficient or you LOSE mileage or don't maximize your potential.  Amperage makes BG; our HyZor Technology book lists the four most efficient ways to control amperage (and thus BG production).  BTW, restricting the amount of electrolyte, or using a dimmer in series with the electrolyzer, to control amperage are two of the LEAST efficient ways to control amperage and are NOT in our book.

3. Once you have an efficient electrolyzer and you can control the amperage efficiently, you finally need to merge the electrolyzer with your fuel system.  

When your combustion efficiency increases, the vehicle's computer doesn't know what to do with the changes (like higher percent of oxygen in the exhaust or the faster combustion or the lack of knock).  You need to add a few Combustion Enhancement Interface Technology CEIT devices to 'correct' or modify the signals the computer is getting from it's sensors... so the computer will not over-react (usually by adding fuel).

CEIT 'relates' to the issue of too much BG because all the factors involved (electrolyzer efficiency, vehicle characteristics and operating conditions) are dynamic (constantly changing).  
For example, as you increase electrolyzer efficiency, you produce the same BG with less fuel, (reducing the parasitic load on the engine).  Thus the BG that is produced will have a greater effect (less efficiency factor for the catalytic effect to overcome). This will usually reduce the need for fuel, which will reduce the need for BG (remember we only need the optimum for the catalytic effect).  By using CEIT, we can 'tune' the vehicle so that it gets the optimized gain from the BG.

That is where the EFIE and MAP/MAF Enhancers are applied.  There are some other CEIT too, for fine tuning of temperature sensors, etc. 

I can't yet say. There are too many variables.

For example: the efficiency of the electrolyzer.
For any given fuel volume there will be an optimum volume of BG to use as a combustion enhancement catalyst.
I have found (see HyZor Technology book) that a law of diminishing returns applies. So for the first amp of BG production (on any given electrolyzer) you get the most gains. The next amp gets less gains, etc. until peak (peak varies with engine and electrolyzer efficiency), and then additional amperage actually LOSES mileage. A lot of people are in that range, not getting optimum gains, because they are assuming that if a little BG is good, a lot is better; and while that is literally true, it's not PRACTICALLY true.

The answer is somewhere in a balance of amperage (thus BG production) and the efficiencies with which BG is produced and used.

Note: I idled a 140ci engine TOTALLY on BG at a rate of 3000 liters/hour (see BG video 2). My average electrolyzer efficiency at the time was 3 watthours/liter, so I was using 9 kWh (from the Grid) to idle an engine for an hour in my shop. (It ran amazingly smoothly) I think if I had made timing adjustments and raised the compression of the engine, I could have significantly reduced the BG consumption.

My point is that we are dealing with two different philosophies and which we concentrate on is totally dependent on electrolyzer efficiency.

The first philosophy is catalytic combustion enhancement.

As long as the electrolyzer can't make enough BG to actually run the engine (when powered by the engine) then this is the ONLY practical avenue. Efficiency is still the key here, because actual fuel mileage gains seriously depend on the electrolyzer efficiency. It takes a LOT of fuel to make electricity (most people have NO idea how much).

Here's an example; part 1: Assuming the gasoline engine is 25% efficient, the alternator belt drive 90%, the alternator 55%, electrolyzer 60% (overall efficiency of energy conversion is 100*0.25*0.9*0.55*0.60 = 7.4%); then for each watt of electricity produced by the alternator took (100/7.4) 13.5 watts of fuel. The resulting BG needs to increase overall engine efficiency by 13.5 watts for every watt of BG produced before there will be ANY gain in fuel mileage.

So if we look at our efficiency bell curve, it will peak (for these conditions) when the overall engine efficiency does NOT increase by more than 13.5 watts of fuel per watt of BG produced.

Example part 2: Assuming we change NO other efficiencies in the engine (I definitely recommend making every efficiency upgrade possible but for our example we'll hold to one variable) and 'just' increase the efficiency of the electrolyzer to 100% (which we have done and may be doing better). So the engine is 25% efficient, the alternator belt drive 90%, the alternator 55%, electrolyzer 100% (overall efficiency of energy conversion is 100*0.25*0.9*0.55*1 = 12.4%); then for each watt of electricity produced by the alternator took (100/12.4) 8 watts of fuel. The resulting BG needs to increase overall engine efficiency by 8 watts for every watt of BG produced before there will be ANY gain in fuel mileage.

So if we look at our efficiency bell curve, it will peak (for these conditions) when the overall engine efficiency does NOT increase by more than 8 watts of fuel per watt of BG produced.

The electrolyzer efficiency change significantly affects how much BG is 'optimum' in a 'feedback' kind of loop. As the overall engine efficiency increases, the amount of fuel required to produce a watt of BG goes down (engine efficiency rises) further reducing the wattage of fuel needed to produce the BG.

Example part 3: So the engine is now 30% efficient, the alternator belt drive 90%, the alternator 55%, electrolyzer 100% (overall efficiency of energy conversion is 100*0.30*0.9*0.55*1 = 14.9%); then for each watt of electricity produced by the alternator took (100/14.9) 6.7 watts of fuel. The resulting BG needs to increase overall engine efficiency by 6.7 watts for every watt of BG produced before there will be ANY gain in fuel mileage.

So if we look at our efficiency bell curve, it will peak (for these conditions) when the overall engine efficiency does NOT increase by more than 6.7 watts of fuel per watt of BG produced.

Each efficiency gain, wherever applied, affects the entire system in a dynamic balance; which is why I can't answer the question: "1. How much BG does any given engine need or can effectively and efficiently use per liter of engine displacement." The answer depends on several variables, which change with every application.

My rule of thumb, with my HyZors, is 1 amp of BG for each liter of engine displacement.

This recommendation is based on:

1. The average 'reserve capacity' of most alternator systems (about 3 amps per liter of engine displacement). Greater amperage draw than this (for the HyZor) starts to create issues with the ability of the charging system to keep a battery fully charged (particularly in winter with short vehicle runs) and I have to assume that the electrolyzer isn't the only 'after-market' load on the alternator.

2. Absolutely keeping the customer's gains on the 'most gains' side of the efficiency bell curve. The first few amps gives the greatest gain. So typically, my HyZors are getting the same gains that found by other designs that use 10x the amperage.

3. As we increase electrolyzer efficiency, the volume of BG per amp rises, which will further increase customer's fuel mileage without causing excessive stress on the charging system.

In the end, I want to make it possible for the customer to make informed choice about how much BG to produce, with the ability to vary the production to desire.

 

The second philosophy is Water As Fuel.

This can only be possible when the electrolyzer efficiency is greater than 400% (this will allow an engine to 'self-run' on water). It can only be practical if the electrolyzer efficiency is 4000% (this will allow the engine to have the excess power needed to be of practical use). Since I know of no electrolyzer technology that is 4000% efficient, I choose to concentrate on the combustion enhancement philosophy.

You can first try grocery stores and hardware stores, because pure lye has traditionally been sold as sold as drain cleaner. It is great for this because it has NO environmental consequences when poured down the drains. Lye is produced by burning wood, so the environment naturally gets a big boost of Lye every time there is a forest fire. A good brand is Red Devil.

Note: DON'T use Draino, it has additives that cause foaming that will short out your electrolyzer.

If you can't find lye on your local grocery or hardware store shelves, the next place to look is a local pharmacy. They have access to ALL types of chemicals (though the price is usually inflated) and will be able to order it in for you.

Finally, understand that Lye is used in a LOT of chemical processes and it would literally cripple the economy (similar to suddenly removing gasoline) to remove it entirely. If you search online, you can find wholesale suppliers; and you can usually buy smaller quantities from sources that supply Bio-Fuel and Candle making products.

Here is an example link: Lye and KOH

Since about 2005, Lye has been disappearing from grocery and hardware shelves. It seems that Lye is used to make certain street drugs and, in the 'war against drugs' the police are requesting that stores NOT carry it, to make it harder to access for 'drug labs'.

Taking Lye off grocery shelves doesn't affect drug labs, because they need LOTS more Lye than that, and buy it from bulk distributors. I still buy my Lye from my local hardware store (even though they have removed it from the shelves) because I have them special order about 30 Kilograms at a time; so much for 'war on drugs' argument.

Note: Legal drugs kill far more people than 'illegal' drugs. A lot of the legal drugs are just as addictive and have far more side effects. Legal drugs generally treat symptoms, not cure the actual disease (because keeping you sick is more profitable). Vested Interest (in this case Big Pharma) is behind the 'war on drugs' because they want a monopoly. They regularly try to get vitamins and minerals classified as 'drugs' and they violently suppress any actual cures for disease.

Personally I think this is just another ploy by the Vested Interest (in this case Government tax revenues) to prevent people like you from having access to this (pretty much ideal) catalyst for your electrolyzers. They KNOW that, properly applied, BG technology will reduce fuel consumption at least 25% and that means a revenue loss of billions of dollars per year.

 

A. When you use any fuel saving technique or device (from any company), you get more power from the fuel, so the fuel flow from the regular fuel system needs to be reduced to maintain power and to optimize your fuel gains.

The EFIE is an interface technology that allow fuel savers to work on vehicles that have oxygen sensor feedback.

Without the EFIE vehicles, that have oxygen sensors, will usually lose mileage when applying fuel saving techniques; because the vehicle's computer adds fuel to compensate for the increased level of oxygen in the exhaust.

The EFIE device is a circuit that is installed into the oxygen sensor signal wire and helps the vehicle's computer automatically cut back the fuel consumption as combustion efficiency is increased.

The Carburetor Enhancer is a simple carburetor custom tuning technique. It gives you greater control over the air:fuel ratio. Start with the easy and inexpensive basic version.

A. The ER HyZor is designed to be mounted almost anywhere.

The location does not matter to the operation of the ER HyZor. Usually, the engine compartment is recommended.

Sometimes other components can be relocated to make room if space is tight.

Other favorite locations include: in front of the radiator, in fender wells, under dash, behind seat, in trunk.  

The ER HyZor electronic control circuit can also be located nearly anywhere that is protected from moisture.

A. The ER HyZor should be standing up straight for the most efficient operation. 

A couple of degrees of angle in any direction, won't cause problems.

A. After you purchase your HyZor Basic Kit, you will automatically have access to the HyZor Resources through the applicable section of your eStore account.

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